, it is external because of the people who get elected. >> when our nation separated from church and state. what are your thoughts and using the bible, and the words "so help me god" used? >> not only did george bible, but have a after his inauguration, the congress voted to have a church service. it went across to sit paul's chapel in new york board -- they went across to st. paul's chapel in new york, and had a service. there was no first amendment by the at that time. -- at that time. what has happened now is that congress does not vote in these things. presidents choose what to do. since roosevelt's time, presidents have usually gone to a church service on the morning of the inauguration or just before the inauguration. that is personal to them. they choose whatever bible to hold. just like members of congress can choose a family bible or historical bible. when the first muslim was sworn in, he was provided with thomas jefferson's copy of the koran to be sworn in. people choose something appropriate to them. "so help me god" is another issue. i do not think there is anything wron